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Pete
Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Posts: 203
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:25 pm   Post subject: Weird case on early type 2

Hi All,

Just saw 500406 go on Ebay...has anyone seen a case like this before? Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-CURTA-Mechancal-Calculator-TYPE-II-EARLY-no-500406-/360357778829?pt=UK_Collectables_Scientific_MJ&hash=item53e6ff558d#ht_1286wt_1144

Any information would be appreciated.

EDIT: Okay, when I said, "Just saw 500406 go..." what I meant was, "I have an itchy trigger finger on 'buy it now' items". I bought it. I have it now and the strange case indeed looks like a production item (moulded plastic, raised logo, reverse threads, same-as-other-Curta-cases foam and bumper and gasket). Perhaps it was a prototype that was rejected in favour of the finalized plastic cases with which we are all familiar, but I'd be surprised to find I have the only surviving example - anyone else got one?

I have taken slightly better pictures (they're still awful, I am no MURFF), comparing it to other cases I have. I don't have a website though - if you want to see them, please PM me on this site and give me a proper email address. Admin, if you have the facility to post the pictures here on the BB, please let me know.
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:24 pm

Here are Petes pictures (hosted at curta.li):






















And this picture shows that this canister was provided by
AUTOMATIC BUSINESS MACHINES LIMITED. London
(based on the label fragments...):



So it's likely that this Curta canister was an official model
(a fabrication sample would not have a distribution label on it...).
Maybe a replacement canister fabricated outside of Contina SA...
Pete
Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Posts: 203
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:42 pm

The Frenchman is selling one just like mine - http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RARE-Early-CURTA-Calculator-TYPE-II-500421-VERY-GOOD-STATE-1953-/131612996640?hash=item1ea4bef420:g:mcEAAOSwKIpWBk3L

Serials are very close. The machine I got with mine is a repair job, though - plastic crank and other items in the top carriage tell me someone once dropped it on its head and sent it back to Contina to get it fixed. So this one for sale is nicer!

Thanks to Vincent for noticing this sale, cheers.
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:30 pm

hmmm... US $3,999.00 :?:
Pete
Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Posts: 203
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:39 pm

Well, considering the guys on this forum have mostly already bought their collections I'm not hugely against some small appreciation in the prices! But yeah, you're right, USD4000 is a bit much for what is a simple early type 2. And the prototype case is, frankly, flimsy and crude in comparison to the metal canisters, even the plastic canisters are very much better made. The Frenchman will sell his machine to a deep-pocketed collector who must have EVERY type...there's buyers out there for Demo Boxes, after all, and you could buy a car for what those cost.
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:41 pm

After a long time...




an update on this topic:

It is now known that this canister is a prototype of Contina AG, which was developed together with the prototype of the Curta 2a.
After the three already known canisters (P-004, 500406 and 500421), Number Four has now appeared...
Interestingly, also from Automatic Business Machines Limited, London.

Are any other specimens known?


8)
Pete
Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Posts: 203
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:55 pm

Well done Murff! Mine's still sitting in storage. And your machine looks all original, much better than the one that came in my prototype case!
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 4:11 pm

... haven't heard from you for a long time :!:

The Curta has also been repaired by Automatic Business Machines Limited and is currently not functional - the axis can be turned but not switched to subtraction...
Pete
Joined: 04 Mar 2010
Posts: 203
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:28 pm

murff wrote:
...the axis can be turned but not switched to subtraction...

Agh! Good thing you have some working machines to keep you interested. As for the length of time I most recently used a Curta yesterday - I keep an old Type 1 on my desk, under a glass dome of course - I just don't spend as much time online looking at them these days!

Glad to see the prototype case on your excellent site, too. Looks like you have all the variations in one place.
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:38 am

The rare duo has now been restored to its former glory



The first attempt to repair the defective Curta failed. The axle could be turned without resistance, but switching to subtraction did not work.
A second attempt revealed that the Zero Positioner Disc was solidly "glued" to the axle - even a 48-hour bath in solvent didn't help.
With a lot of luck and a little force, the Zero Positioner Disc came loose and could be replaced with a new one...

8)
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:57 pm

... Number Five


[ Image from a German collector, Office Machines Museum Pfaeffikon - June 2025 ]

P-007 . . .
murff
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 620
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 9:47 am

Pete's Curta

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